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Are you interested in why energy is the foundation of all opportunities and challenges?
Our debate today works with the book titled The Energy Foundation – Why Affordable, Reliable Energy Is the Key to Jobs, Cost of Living, and Resilience from 2026, by AJ Perkins with yours truly, Fanni Melles.
This is a great preparation to our next interview with AJ Perkins in episode 426 talking about why energy is the foundation of every challenge and opportunity. The book is currently still in development so the published version will be available later in the year.
Since we are investigating the future of cities, I thought it would be interesting to see why high utility costs act as a compounding tax that inflates the price of all goods and services. This book presents the SOUND energy foundation that creates true resilience for communities and businesses with margins to absorb shocks and disasters.
Find the book through this link (updated when the book is published).
Connecting episodes you might be interested in:
- No.349R – Superabundant Energy What will we do with it?
- No.350 – Panel conversation about the urban energy matrix
- No.410 – Interview with Casey Handmer about the need for abundant energy
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